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Re: Guy Fawkes Night / Bonfire Night
« Reply #15 on: November 09, 2009, 04:57:41 AM »
Whatever,,,
 I thought it was brilliant. AND if I remember right,, the graphic novel took place in the UK also.
Its one of my alltime favorite movies.

Guess Ill get more heat for liking it now.
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Re: Guy Fawkes Night / Bonfire Night
« Reply #16 on: November 09, 2009, 07:40:52 AM »
All i'd need is the resources and i'd be Guy Fawkes the 2nd.
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Re: Guy Fawkes Night / Bonfire Night
« Reply #17 on: November 09, 2009, 07:57:26 AM »
We need on in America.
 
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Re: Guy Fawkes Night / Bonfire Night
« Reply #18 on: November 09, 2009, 08:09:11 AM »
http://news.infoshop.org/article.php?story=2007alan-moore-interview
Alan Moore wrote V for Vendetta, a comics SERIES set in a dystopian england, which aside from facism had nothing to do with the video.

The video, was written by Larry Wachowski, who would have been better served by not making horrid sequels to his one good film (the matrix).

 Instead he continues to be a poo sandwich factory, bringing us such classics as "Speed racer" and "There's something seriously wrong with my brother".

You may notice the parallels between the warner brothers video "V for vendetta" and "The matrix 3: Dear god make it stop".

Either way, V is an insane anarchist, Guy Fawkes was not.

If you are looking for an American "Guy Fawkes", might I suggest Timothy Mcveigh.

Sorry, that came off far more bitter than I intended. But I do think there is a parallel between Mcveigh and Fawkes.
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Re: Guy Fawkes Night / Bonfire Night
« Reply #19 on: November 09, 2009, 09:28:21 AM »
So,,your saying you think its a crappy movie?
 
 I liked it nontheless.
I liked the Matrix movies too.
I guess we disagree on things lol

BTW,, living in Oklahoma,,I have to say one thing about Mcveigh,, he was a murdering piece of crap.
 I lost a couple of freinds in that bombing,, The people in the OKC bombing were inocent victims.
 ( sorry,, im sensitive about the Mceigh statement.)
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Re: Guy Fawkes Night / Bonfire Night
« Reply #20 on: November 09, 2009, 09:56:22 AM »
Fawkes was fighting the good fight.
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Re: Guy Fawkes Night / Bonfire Night
« Reply #21 on: November 09, 2009, 10:01:10 AM »
Unless you know what Mcveigh did,, dont compare that murdering scallywag with a revolutionary.
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Re: Guy Fawkes Night / Bonfire Night
« Reply #22 on: November 09, 2009, 10:03:36 AM »
Quote from: Robin-Graves on November 09, 2009, 10:01:10 AM
Unless you know what Mcveigh did,, dont compare that murdering scallywag with a revolutionary.

Mc Viegh was a sick golly with a narrow mind.
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Re: Guy Fawkes Night / Bonfire Night
« Reply #23 on: November 09, 2009, 10:08:54 AM »
I was thinking of Guy Fawkes Day as similar even to Cinco de Mayo that we celebrate in the US. Not really... but sort of. There are some holidays that are weird we do celbrate still, and they are a good excuse to shoot off fireworks and drink.

The Guy fawkes thing always does interest me though.. because as an outsider I don't know how big a deal it is.. or, if it holds meaning etc..

As far as revolutionaries go? I'm really divided about that. Sometimes I think it's valid. Sometimes it's handled wrong. Really really wrong. It's a huge slippery slope idea.
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Re: Guy Fawkes Night / Bonfire Night
« Reply #24 on: November 09, 2009, 10:11:25 AM »
It was a good idea, bad effort though.
It shouldnt have gone to violence.
Best way to fight a system is to fight WITHIN the system.

The Gunpoweder Treason was to stop or retaliate against religious persecution.
Mcveigh and Nichols were just murdering nutjobs trying to make a statement.
 So 8ullfrog,, THAT is the diference.
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Re: Guy Fawkes Night / Bonfire Night
« Reply #25 on: November 09, 2009, 10:56:10 AM »
Let's get this straight: Guido (Guy) Fawkes was nothing more than the fall-guy, it was Robert Catesby that was the brains behind it all.  And the "Gunpowder plot" had little to do with politics as it was just a group of good Catholic boys who wanted to oust the Protestant monarch/y.

If we wanted to equate that to the modern day, then I suppose it would be the religious extremists that are the nearest thing to it.
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Re: Guy Fawkes Night / Bonfire Night
« Reply #26 on: November 09, 2009, 10:59:40 AM »
I am very glad that I edited what I said, my original post was fairly inflammatory. I was visiting my father in the hospital that day, and we were locked in the hospital. My dad was intubated at the time and just held my hand.
I think I must have been eight or nine at most.

The point was not that fawkes was blowing up politicians, but that he was blowing up protestants.

The parallels of the two men are truly frightening.
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Re: Guy Fawkes Night / Bonfire Night
« Reply #27 on: November 09, 2009, 11:23:10 AM »
So Fawkes was a paranoid schizophrenic, with a side of delusions who slept with a gun under his pillow?
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Re: Guy Fawkes Night / Bonfire Night
« Reply #28 on: November 09, 2009, 12:19:16 PM »
Fawks and Mcveigh were nothing alike,,Fawk didnt kill inocent people justbecause of his own paranoia.

AND,,,I still concider V or Vendetta a good movie,,
Of course, I also concider Zombie Diaries a relavant movie when it comes to human nature lmao

BUT,,I just figured V to be a relavant movie to watch on Bonfire Night,,call me wierd.
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