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Re: London riots.
« Reply #15 on: August 09, 2011, 03:17:53 PM »
It appears there may be some vigilantes being mobilsed this evening, and I wholeheartedly support them.  They are saying that they will "citizen arrest" anyone breaking the law and wait for the police to collect them.  Some of the chaps looked pretty damn tough too.
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Re: London riots.
« Reply #16 on: August 09, 2011, 03:58:30 PM »
I figured this was important:
http://uk.eonline.com/news/ask_the_answer_bitch/kate_middleton_safe_london_burns/257078

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The police helicopters are flying low enough to make my windows shake.  The armoured police vehicles on TV look so cool, I want one!
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Re: London riots.
« Reply #17 on: August 12, 2011, 03:45:26 AM »
So the rioting seems to have abated and the police are arresting people for crimes ranging from theft to murder. Kids seem to be getting away scot-free because of their age (too young to be imprisoned maybe but not too young to use a dustpan and brush to help clean up the mess they contributed to I reckon), whilst those facing tougher judges have been hit hard - six months prison for stealing a bottle of water.  :o

I suppose those not yet arrested will be quaking in their newly stolen Reeboks.

There are aspects of the way this whole thing was handled by the government and police which rile me. Seeing Cameron enjoying his holiday in Italy while London was burning was revolting. Seeing lines of riot police defending uninhabited large stores and businesses while communities had to defend their own small shops and homes themselves - and in some cases losing their lives doing so - and seeing rioters being moved back instead of arrested, especially in the original North London riot before things got too out of hand.
Plus of course this gives the Tories carte blanche to rewrite the law and bring in whatever draconian measures they see fit without anyone daring to really oppose it.
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Re: London riots.
« Reply #18 on: August 12, 2011, 04:09:06 AM »
Yes, lets lock away a 17 year old because he aspired to a new pair of trainers that he could never have afforded in real life, and while we are at it we can give a stern telling off to the minister who stole tens of thousands of tax payers pounds to have his moat cleaned - except let's not bother with the "telling off" bit.

What the gubmint fails to recognise, especially where I live, is 20 metres from where the looting happened in Battersea, an area that has been decribed and redescribed as an area full of trendy young professionals, dressed in nice clothes and all wanting just to hang out in the swish bars on that road, is the Winstanley estate which is where the "So Solid Crew" hail from and is so economically deprived that even the Doctors surgery on the estate has to have boarded up windows as the norm. That economic situation seems to be mirrored in a lot of the locations where trouble flared.

Of course none of it was right, but I don't think that the uprising was without a root cause that has yet to be addressed.
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« Reply #19 on: August 12, 2011, 06:09:08 PM »
Cameron is talking about evicting people from their rented homes if their kids were involved in the rioting. I believe some of the rioters were from well off backgrounds. I wonder what similar punishment he has planned for their families? /sarcasm
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« Reply #20 on: August 12, 2011, 07:51:43 PM »
I wonder how are they handling this. Cause if we were talking about Hugo Chávez we wouldn't be surprised (or at least we South Americans wouldn't be). But this is the UK and I confess I am surprised.
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Re: London riots.
« Reply #21 on: August 12, 2011, 07:55:26 PM »
Quote from: redlandslide on August 12, 2011, 06:09:08 PM
Cameron is talking about evicting people from their rented homes if their kids were involved in the rioting. I believe some of the rioters were from well off backgrounds. I wonder what similar punishment he has planned for their families? /sarcasm

I'm actually pretty shocked at the professions of some of the looters: Graphic designer, Primary school mentor, Ballerina, Jedi (ok, I made the last one up)(or did I...).

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Quote from: xtopave on August 12, 2011, 07:51:43 PM
I wonder how are they handling this. Cause if we were talking about Hugo Chávez we wouldn't be surprised (or at least we South Americans wouldn't be). But this is the UK and I confess I am surprised.

Anyone can set up a free blog or forum in a couple of minutes.  All you'd need to do then is post what you want on one of those via your phone and then txt everyone with the link. There is no need of social networks as such to spread information, it's all just smoke and mirrors really.
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« Reply #22 on: August 12, 2011, 07:59:12 PM »
All the more preposterous. That's why I don't understand they say they will do something highly questionable when they can't do it in the 1st place.
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Re: London riots.
« Reply #23 on: August 14, 2011, 11:12:05 AM »
I'm glad you guys are safe.  I hope you stay that way.
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Re: London riots.
« Reply #24 on: August 16, 2011, 03:52:34 AM »
Quote from: christ on August 15, 2011, 12:07:37 PM
Because they don't understand what they are saying. Government representatives talking about new technology is like a toddler talking about nuclear physics: they can use a few of the right words, and can sometimes by luck string them together into semi-coherent sentences, but they have no idea what they mean.

I once heard one of them talking about "Twatter". I'm not entirely sure of the context as I use a word quite similar to that when talking about some politicians, so he might not have had his foot in his mouth,
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Re: London riots.
« Reply #25 on: August 16, 2011, 08:34:51 AM »
It's scary though what people in control can manage to do.. even if it's short lived and ham handed..


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Re: London riots.
« Reply #26 on: August 19, 2011, 12:16:04 PM »
in a foreign country its progress to a revolution and freedom.
in the uk its Sedition 
go figure
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Re: London riots.
« Reply #27 on: August 22, 2011, 04:28:26 AM »
Quote from: christ on August 19, 2011, 02:46:06 PM
Never a truer word was spoken.

Double standards really irritate me.

They are, unfortunately, inescapable.
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Re: London riots.
« Reply #28 on: August 22, 2011, 08:01:09 AM »
Quote from: christ on August 22, 2011, 06:24:18 AM
When you are me, everything is inescapable!
ha ha  :o
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Re: London riots.
« Reply #29 on: August 22, 2011, 10:04:24 AM »
Quote from: christ on August 22, 2011, 06:24:18 AM
When you are me, everything is inescapable!

In that case, being irritated by them would be ever so slightly masochistic.
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