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Offline mishca09

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is it true that...
« on: June 15, 2013, 07:48:20 PM »
is it true, that if you dont use the right toilet paper you may not feel comfortable after…. ya know?

does toilet paper really add to your confidence?

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« Reply #1 on: June 15, 2013, 07:54:33 PM »
Having a roommate who uses toilet paper like a woman has educated me on this point.

My family has always spent the money to get the good paper. Only time I had single ply was out camping or using the toilets at the beach.

Roommate buys the 7-11 single ply. It's noticeable.

He never puts it on the spool either, he just leaves it on top of the toilet.

Good news is he doesn't seem to know where the roll is, so we let him have his lousy one ply on top of the toilet, and just don't tell him.

He also throws the last third of the roll away. You would think someone that cheap would use it down to the cardboard.

I've also ended up pissing in the yard more than I'd like.

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« Reply #2 on: June 15, 2013, 08:25:01 PM »
I'm a little confused, your roommate uses toilet paper like a woman?


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« Reply #3 on: June 15, 2013, 09:44:53 PM »
From what I've seen women tend to use more toilet paper than men.

This is not the case with my roommate.

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Re: is it true that...
« Reply #4 on: June 21, 2013, 02:24:20 AM »
I find toilet paper like wine: generally you buy what is relatively cheap but does the job, but now and again it's nice to splash out.

No pun intended.
Don't put off until tomorrow, what you can put off until the day after.

There is an exception to every rule, apart from this one.

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Re: is it true that...
« Reply #5 on: August 10, 2013, 10:27:30 AM »
Yep. Im American. Is this accurate?

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Prince George Being Circumcised? What Total TOSH!

Of all the ludicrous pieces of claptrap that I have heard spouted about Prince George, there is nothing quite so bonkers - so utterly fantastical - as this idea that the boy is going to be circumcised.

Where has this nutso idea come from? I know exactly where: the United States.

Over in the US, it is quite common for wee boys to be circumcised, whatever their religion.
Well good for them.

But because circumcision is rife in the US, some doltish royal commentators have got it into their heads that it's happening all over the world.

I can just imagine the newsroom conversation: "Hey! American boys get circumcised - so when's this Prince Georgie going to be done? Who's gonna do it? What will happen to the royal foreskin? Find out - now! The public has a right to know!" Ahemmm! Do I need to spell it out?

Circumcision is a rarity in the UK - and is generally only done for religious or medical reasons. To think that Prince William and Kate are even considering having their boy circumcised is just crackers. Not that we should ever let the facts spoil a good story, but...

You might as well speculate that Wills is going to have George's name tattooed onto his bicep.

Or that the young royals are thinking of having George's ears pierced. Or that Kate has been giving serious thought to eating the placenta. Now that would be a story.

I can just see Kate and Wills tucking into the placenta over a decent bottle of chianti - though unfortunately for us benighted Royal pundits, there's about as much chance of that happening as there is of a royal circumcision.

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Re: is it true that...
« Reply #6 on: August 11, 2013, 03:11:46 PM »
Anyone else care to post a less dramatic answer? I didnt know this was a thing but I never slept with any british men either so go figure.

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« Reply #7 on: August 11, 2013, 09:18:00 PM »
He answered your question. Not his fault if you don't like the answer.

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« Reply #8 on: August 12, 2013, 02:32:23 PM »
 Clearly you do not agree with this procedure. Unclear why you would think that millions of parents choose to "mutilate"  ::) their children. I get it. The point of this post was to gain knowledge of this subject not to be thrown under a bus for being curious. Let us all research.

Conditions that may benefit from circumcision

Paraphimosis is a medical emergency. The foreskin is pulled back underneath the tip of the penis, becomes trapped and cannot be returned to its original position.
Paraphimosis sometimes happens as a complication of a medical procedure that involves pushing back the foreskin for a prolonged period of time. Such procedures include:
•   an examination of the penis
•   a cystoscopy – a medical procedure where a thin, flexible tube (catheter) with a camera on the end is inserted through the penis and up into the bladder
•   urinary catheterisation – a procedure in which a catheter is inserted through the penis and up into the bladder to drain urine out of the bladder
Paraphimosis causes a band of swelling to develop around the penis, which can block the blood supply. If paraphimosis is not treated, the lack of blood supply will mean that the tissue of the penis will begin to die.

Balanoposthitis is inflammation of the foreskin, usually caused by a bacterial infection.
Symptoms of balanoposthitis include:
•   pain when urinating
•   a discharge of pus from the penis
•   inflammation of the shaft of the penis
Balanoposthitis can be successfully treated using antibiotics. Most people do not have further infections. Circumcision is usually recommended only in adults in rare cases where someone has repeated infections (recurrent balanoposthitis).
Urinary tract infections
•   A urinary tract infection (UTI) is an infection of the urinary system.
•   About 4% of boys have at least one UTI before they are 16.
Research has found that circumcised boys are 10 to 14 times less likely to catch a UTI than uncircumcised boys. This is because many UTIs are thought to be caused by bacteria that gather inside the foreskin before spreading to the urinary system.
However, most UTIs are mild and do not cause serious damage. Circumcision is usually only recommended if a boy has a risk factor that increases the likelihood of repeated UTIs. Repeated UTIs can cause kidney damage.
An example of a pre-existing risk factor is a birth defect that causes urine to leak back up into the kidney. This carries the risk of bacteria spreading from the foreskin, through the urine, and infecting the kidney. In such circumstances, circumcision may be recommended.

Circumcision is known to reduce the risk of catching three sexually transmitted infections (STIs). These are:
•   HIV
•   syphilis
•   chancroid – an uncommon STI in England that causes painful sores on the genitals
Research in Africa found that heterosexual circumcised men are 38-66% less likely to contract HIV than uncircumcised men.
It is thought that the foreskin contains special cells that attract the cells of the HIV virus. This means that uncircumcised men who have vaginal sex with an HIV positive woman are more likely to develop the infection.
However, it is still unclear whether circumcision has the same protective effect for homosexual men who have unprotected anal sex. There also seems to be no protective benefits for female sexual partners of heterosexual circumcised men.
Circumcision is known to reduce the risk of a man getting syphilis and chancroid. This is thought to be because:
•   the foreskin may provide a warm, moist environment, which allows the syphilis and chancroid bacteria to grow and multiply
•   the foreskin often sustains tiny cuts (micro-abrasions) during sexual intercourse, which allow the bacteria to pass into the bloodstream
It is estimated that uncircumcised men are:
•   twice as likely to get syphilis
•   10 times as likely to get chancroid

Cancer of the penis
Research has shown that men who are circumcised in childhood are three to four times less likely to develop penile cancer than men who are uncircumcised. This is because many cases of penile cancer develop in the foreskin.
However, cancer of the penis is very rare. On average, 400 new cases are diagnosed each year in the UK.
However, in some rare cases a person may be more at risk, for example if they have a family history of penile cancer or a weakened immune system. In such cases, circumcision is recommended as a preventative measure.

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Re: is it true that...
« Reply #9 on: August 12, 2013, 03:07:25 PM »
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female circumcision, which I note you didn't respond on - what is your position on that?
Apparently no health benefits what so ever and the MEDICAL community deams it mutilation.

Just like a double mastectomy - I just don't see everyone performing a double mastectomy on their newborn girls because it has a potential medical benefit in a small number of cases.
Back to the extreme and I think you know that. While females are the major carriers of breast cancer; childhood onset, unlike UTI's, is unlikely.

In general I neither agree nor disagree with this particular procedure.
So referencing it to "child mutilation" was just............ cant think of a parallel here.

PS - you asked about accuracy - I answered, and to reiterate "Yes, the quoted post was accurate".
Thanks for the answer to the question though. I have no male children nor brothers so I wasnt aware that this was not a wide used practice. I asked my sisters if they had their sons circumcised and they both said absolutely "Yes". And if you knew the women in my family, vanity is far from our reality. Ha!!

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« Reply #10 on: August 12, 2013, 04:17:49 PM »
According to the WHO, 140 million women and girls are living with the effects of FGM (female genital mutilation)" - just because millions of people do it, doesn't make it right.
Valid point. But I do give medical science some credit. If they say there is no purpose for this then it does leave the door wide open for criticism. I have never researched this topic nor do I know any women who have had it done. I have, however, heard MANY African women speak against it.

Did you ask them "why", then?
Of course. Those 2 things go hand in hand dont they? Both of their pediatricians said it was a healthy practice and advised it. BUT gave them complete control of whether or not to do it. My sister, who had her first recently, had a hard time deciding. She is doing so many freakish things with this kid I could start a new thread called "why women over 40 shouldnt have children with a complete idiot". Ha!!  But ended up taking the advice of our middle sister who circumcised her son.

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« Reply #11 on: August 12, 2013, 08:04:01 PM »
Wow.  That's a leap from toilet paper quality.

The main point of female circumcision is to deprive women of the ability to experience sexual pleasure in order to control their sexual behavior.  Many children who have this procedure performed experience related functional difficulties either in terms of urination, or infections and other problems related to reproductive health.  I've never read any studies that attribute a single benefit to this.

There are radically divided schools of thought about male circumcision, but there have been some health benefits associated with removal of the foreskin.  As far as I know, men's ability to experience pleasure during sex is not limited or impeded by this.

Both procedures appear to be linked to religious practices even though there is no reference to female circumcision in any religious scripture. 

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« Reply #12 on: August 13, 2013, 07:16:55 PM »
Penn & Teller did a bit on this on cowpoo!

The procedure did look particularly strange and barbaric, yet the people crusading for foreskin rights also came off as complete nutjobs.

But for sure, it's a controversial subject. I think little c answered it just fine in his first reply, and any "Dramatics" were down to that poster.

This isn't exactly a subject I'm keen on bringing up with mom, but I don't believe it was presented as "Optional" until fairly recently.

That being said, it's nowhere as bent up as a bris.


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« Reply #14 on: August 13, 2013, 09:23:06 PM »
Other than Muslim women, I know of no Americans who advocate female genital mutilation.  (Actually, of the Muslim women I know, none support this practice at all.)

In the U.S., circumcising males seems to have been part of the sort of obsessive hygiene practices that became standardized with the increasing power of the medical profession as the 20th century progressed (this is in addition to traditional Jewish practices).  Discontinuing or at least questioning this practice became an issue in the 1970's as an adjunct of the women's movement and the idea of returning to nature.  I know men in their 40's who were not circumcised because of their mothers' progressive stance on the subject.  I don't know of any health issues that they experienced, either good or bad.

8ully, I don't know what your situation is, how you feel about it, but it sounds like an odd topic to discuss with your mother, although I know she can be bright and wacky by turns, so who knows.
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